And because of its infinite recyclability, because you can actually recycle and upscale that metal, it means that it can help be part of a future where we are more careful to be sure that we are recycling things that have already been used.

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And then secondly, back to packaging, maybe for you Thomas, obviously a lot of investment going into sustainability, kind of recyclability efforts.

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