At a special private advance screening of the episode in New York City held on November 14 for fans and press, Nalbandian explained that she tried to distance herself from Perreault, whom she affectionately referred to as her “ball and chain” and failed.

Source: https://nypost.com/2023/11/15/entertainment/survivor-45-castaway-kellie-nalbandian-on-her-savage-blindside-bruce-was-obsessed-with-me/

“When Jodi came into my world, I didn’t know if I was alive or dead,” said Perreault, 41. “She showed me that I was alive and that I could live.

Source: https://www.centralmaine.com/2023/09/28/jodi-phinney-co-founder-of-maine-doulas-dies-at-54/